tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18600515.post6372814884847374579..comments2023-07-02T09:22:57.566-05:00Comments on Confessions of a Train Geek: Dugald Tank Car Incident ReportCanadian Train Geekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05525092107895665275noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18600515.post-35153855162438608812010-08-27T21:34:56.511-05:002010-08-27T21:34:56.511-05:00I have to say, I am a little confused about the wh...I have to say, I am a little confused about the whole "HOME SHOP FOR REPAIR DO NOT LOAD" stencil use. You would think they would automatically place the stencil when needed, and not rely only on the electronic systems (regulation allows this), especially on a car carrying dangerous goods? This seems even more important when interchange happens, since I suspect that bad order information is not transfered from one system to another (I imagine a sticky note on a waybill, being exchanged from a UP conductor to a CN one).<br /><br />I agree with the board's views on CN, but I think the regulations should have forced UP to stencil the car.Luc Mallethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16512740897611331974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18600515.post-2383326076359902812010-08-27T21:18:41.840-05:002010-08-27T21:18:41.840-05:00Personally, I don't think CN would have a clai...Personally, I don't think CN would have a claim against UP at all. CN knew it was damaged when UP gave it to them. They failed to get it repaired.<br /><br />But I'm not a lawyer nor am I familiar with interchange rules... :)<br /><br />Good discussion.Canadian Train Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05525092107895665275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18600515.post-75506421659602689942010-08-27T20:02:58.916-05:002010-08-27T20:02:58.916-05:00A used car with a cracked frame, even, advertised,...A used car with a cracked frame, even, advertised, is not roadworthy. Declaring the defect is full disclosure; however, it places innocent people at risk. It is in the public's best interest that the car be "quarantined" until deemed roadworthy.<br /><br />This is no different than a railcar. Har the car in question came off the rail at high speed and made a toxic spill or killed someone, who is liable. How long would it take CN to counter claim against the other railroad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18600515.post-60568218599615453382010-08-27T12:38:13.202-05:002010-08-27T12:38:13.202-05:00I have to disagree, based on the report. It appear...I have to disagree, based on the report. It appears that UP did make an error in labeling it as a residue car, but they did all the right things to try to get it fixed. As the report says, the car owner gave them permission to send it for repair. Maybe there were no certified repair shops closer than the Sarnia one?<br /><br />Once it got into CN's hands, CN basically lost the electronic tag saying it had to be the last car on the train and not be humped.<br /><br />As long as all the appropriate information was given to CN by UP, UP has done its job and has no further involvement with the car.<br /><br />I don't think your analogy applies. How about this one: I have a used car for sale. I advertise it with a notice that the frame is cracked. You purchase it, then drive it for a while until the frame breaks and you cause an accident. Am I liable as well?Canadian Train Geekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05525092107895665275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18600515.post-52175240585688161912010-08-26T18:13:36.323-05:002010-08-26T18:13:36.323-05:00I think the Board was too hard on CN.
There is a...I think the Board was too hard on CN. <br /><br />There is an issue here on whether or not the forwarding carrier had a responsibility of embargoing the car for safety purposes. The same logic holds true for CN.<br /><br />If I drive on the highway after having a drink, both I as the driver and the barkeepper are liable. One for being DUI and the other for serving a drunk.<br /><br />Should not the same logic hold here?<br /><br />Is not the wider community at risk for the forwardking line giving the defective car to CN and CN for moving it?<br /><br />The findings are too one sided.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com