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Thursday, August 24, 2017

The "Sunset" Dinner Train, 1985-2005

This article was provided by Richard Viberg, Ed Bowes and Art Clowes to tell the story of the Sunset dining train at the Salem and Hillsborough Railroad. They provided the majority of the photos, and I included a few of my exterior photos.
CN 1754 at the head of a dinner train at Salem, NB. Steve Boyko photo.


The Genesis

During the winter of 1985, in order to increase the revenue at the railroad, management put together a proposed Dinner Train service to accomplish this task. As we had two empty CN / VIA 5400 series passenger coaches, one was considered most suitable for conversion into a dining car (ex VIA 5433-Ed.).

A proposal was put together, submitted and approved with a provision that funding for the capital improvements had to come from external sources.

The dinner train at the Gray's Island crossing, 2002

Preparation

During late April 1985, the selected coach was moved to an area close to the maintenance shop in order to start a clean up in the interior and begin the retrofit into a dining car. A partition that divided the former passenger smoking area was removed and re-located to the proposed kitchen area. At the men's wash room everything was removed in order to install a commercial propane Bar-B-Q and a steam table.

Counters were installed on both sides of the aisle for storage of dishes and linens. Overhead racks were built to store all of the glassware. In the dining area the overhead baggage racks were removed. New carpeting was installed along with twelve former dining tables at each window providing seating for 48 persons.

Each table had a white tablecloth, two blue runners, napkins, silverware, glasses and a vase of fresh cut flowers.

The interior was painted in a pale blue colour.

Unfortunately there was no air conditioning, and to provide electric power in the kitchen and lights for the lounge car, we secured two small gas generators. During the mid stop over at Pine Glen Road to reverse for the direction home, we refueled both generators before leaving.

The Meal

Your four course dinner included a choice of apple or tomato juice, a tossed garden salad, warm rolls with butter and a main course choice of roast beef, steak, lobster or surf and turf served with mashed or baked potatoes, fresh garden vegetables and a choice of a slice of freshly baked pie served with hot tea or coffee.
Lobster dinner
A few days before our first dinner run, we realized we had forgotten about chairs for our dining passengers, so we quickly made arrangements with a hotel in Moncton to borrow 48 convention chairs for the season.
Diners, on borrowed chairs, 1985
The final task was to clean and paint the exterior of the new dining car white with red and black trim.

First Run

Saturday July 20th, 1985 was the very first run with 48 invited guests of the Village of Hillsborough, with twelve other booked passengers. The train was pulled by RS1 #8208, with dining car "Sunset", lounge car 1000 "Valley View" and an open air car. Departure was set for 6:15 PM for the 2 1/2 hour trip. However, the train did not depart until 7 PM due to electrical problems with the kitchen roof exhaust fan.
Loading the train, 1985
The dining crew consisted of Chef Peter Fullerton, Kitchen Assistant Katherine Meyers and waitresses Catherine Wissink and Debbie Meyers.

First Year

As the first year was experimental, a maximum of 60 passengers were accommodated in two sittings. Other than the paid on board staff, the operating train personnel were volunteers.

The dishes and final clean up had to be carried out after each trip, once the train was shut down and all of the crew fed supper.

Loading the train. Ed Bowes is at far left.
The dinner train operated on Saturdays and Sundays until late October, showing a very small operating profit for the first season.

A video of RS-1 208 and the Sunset dinner train, by long-time volunteer David and Pat Othen:


1986

During the spring of 1986, several major upgrades were carried out on the dining train. A propane hot water heater along with a new dishwasher and a cooler-refrigerator were installed in the kitchen. The dining area received new side drapes beside each window. Six electric floor heaters were installed for the cooler off season. The chairs borrowed the first season were returned and new ones purchased.

We built a food services building to store bulk food items in freezers along with a new ice cube machine. We also received a stove to pre-cook items for the on-board kitchen, especially during the busy fall season.
Chuck Kinney with lobsters in front of the food services building
In order to reduce the interior heat in both the diner and lounge car, each roof was painted silver and two rooftop air conditioners were added. This helped reduce the overall temperature by about 20 degrees during the warm summer months. To power these improvements, a 12 kV diesel generator was placed under the diner to handle the additional electrical load.

We also added one of the excursion coaches to accommodate the increased load of passengers. This allowed for one sitting departing and a second sitting before returning from a 3 1/2 hour extended return trip.
First lounge car, with bar in the former buffet area
The dinner train operated mid-week and on weekends from mid May to September. During October, turkey dinners were featured for the main course along with pumpkin pie. The fall foliage was at its peak and we operated at 100% capacity.

1987

During 1987 another lounge car 1002 - "Mountain View" - was added to the consist and set up back to back with the first lounge car so the live on board musical entertainment could be heard in both lounges.
In the first lounge car, looking toward the second
We also built a table in each lounge for a punch bowl and trays of cheese and crackers. As passengers moved to the lounge cars after each of the two sittings in the dining car, additional coffee or tea was available. Another 12 kV generator and two more air conditioners were installed for added passenger comfort.

1988

During the spring of 1988, a new propane stove and microwave oven were installed in the kitchen. The second empty coach 5433 was converted into a party car and named "Le Bistro". This car occasionally was used as a table car for extra meal seating. The train consist now had four cars, allowing for excellent braking on the downhill portion of the trip between Baltimore and Salem as the rest of the trip was reasonably flat until the last 1/4 mile uphill into Hillsborough.

Marcel Keays giving Steve Boyko his rules test in the second lounge car
The "Sunset" dining train operated seasonally and provided the largest amount of revenue for the railroad. For many years, bus tours, corporate charters, weddings, conventions and other special events used the dining train. On occasion steam locomotive 1009 pulled the train.

8254 on the downhill end of the Sunset dining train
After 20 years of operation, unfortunately we were faced with increased costs to maintain 11 miles of track along with major pending bridge repairs. Operating insurance coverage had become harder to secure, and far more expensive, and with less volunteers it was decided to cease operation of both excursion and dinner trains on November 1, 2004.

Dining aboard the Sunset dinner train
People remember their railway dining experiences for many years. Recently the museum received an email from a retired railroader who rode the Sunset dining train in 1989. He wrote about the experience of having his retirement dinner on the train ("a sumptuous feast of steak and lobster") and he called it "an evening we will never forget".

Live entertainment on the dinner train
Today we have a large display of railway equipment, several operating model railway layouts and a short rail wagon ride. There are many other smaller exhibits for visitor enjoyment at our museum in Hillsborough. Please visit www.nbrm.ca for more information.

Here's a video I took of the dinner train on October 19, 2002.

Written By

  • Richard E. Viberg - General Manager, 1984-1988
  • Edward F. Bowes - Treasurer, 1984-2004
  • Arthur Clowes - Museum Curator, 2005-present

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Wednesday, July 22, 2015

Paintball With Museum Cars?

Diner 5433, Hillsborough, July 2006
The CBC recently reported that the New Brunswick Railway Museum recently turned two railway cars (a sleeper and a diner) over to the paintball business next door to it in Hillsborough. The paintball group (Atlantica Outdoor Recreation Centre) will be using the cars as props for their paintball and other games.

Museum curator Art Clowes (disclaimer: a friend of mine) said that the museum is unable to afford the upkeep for some of its cars, so the paintball group will look after them until the museum is able to restore them. Atlantica owner Aaron Nelson said they would do some minimal maintenance on them.

A bed in the sleeper
The CBC article failed to mention that the museum already turned over the remains of a CN flanger and an old outside-braced boxcar (perhaps two?) to the group.

The cars were all on the south leg of the wye in Hillsborough by June 20th.

The cars involved are:

  • Diner 5433, originally CN 5433
  • Sleeper Saint John River, originally NYC 10161, Agawam River
  • Flanger 56471 (burned in the 1994 fire)
  • Boxcars 74857 and 74886 (burned in the 1994 fire)

Personally, I have no issue with it. I know the NB Railway Museum is desperately short of volunteers and of money, so if someone can find a use for these cars other than scrap metal, they should go for it. Commenters on the CBC talked about the use of cars for rental cabins... all well and good but it all requires money and time, both in short supply. The NBRM has had its issues with volunteers in the past (I know, I volunteered there for several years) but I'm firmly of the opinion that if you aren't willing to help, you don't get to complain about how things are done.

The dinner train in happier times. Hiram Creek Trestle, June 2002.
Keep in mind that the diner hasn't been used since the last dinner train in 2004, and the sleeper hasn't had any maintenance except for a coat of paint several years ago. The flanger and the boxcars were damaged in the tragic 1994 fire and since then have languished on the scale track. Nobody paid any attention to them as they were basically written off. It's lucky they weren't sold for scrap.

I'm interested to hear what you think of the use of these cars.

Saturday, March 10, 2012

Death of a Bridge

The Hiram Creek trestle center
Partial demolition of the Hiram Creek trestle, March 1 2012. Photo by Anonymous.
The old Hiram Creek bridge has come down. This wooden trestle, the highlight of the Salem and Hillsborough Railroad's train ride "back in the day", has been demolished.

The bridge had not seen passenger traffic since 2003, the last year of full operation of the railroad. In 2004 the New Brunswick Railway Museum operated trains up to highway 114 but did not go past the Weldon Creek (steel) bridge due to structural issues with that bridge and with this trestle. So the trestle sat idle for almost 10 years before its final removal.

The railway museum made the decision years ago to terminate the line at Weldon Creek. The majority of the rail line was leased from the province, who took ownership of it following CN's abandonment of the Albert subdivision. The NBRM released the majority of the line several years ago when it was determined that they would never raise enough funds for the repair of the two bridges.

I believe the bridge was becoming a safety issue. Also, you can see that the road was limited to one lane under the bridge.

The trestle was 209 feet long, and the deck was 44 feet above the roadway below. The railroad had a 7 MPH permanent slow order over the bridge and no brakes or throttle were to be applied while on the bridge. I remember the engine would sound very quiet as it coasted over the bridge.

Here's the bridge in happier times. One of the things that made the trestle special was that it was a curved wooden trestle, a relative rarity. Note the "escape platform" in the middle, a refuge for anyone caught on the bridge when a train came along.
Hiram Creek trestle

I took the next two photos on June 29, 2002. There was a dinner train operating, but I don't know why they had both diesels operating. Here's RSC-14 engine 1754 running light over the trestle.
Hiram Creek trestle

Next engine 8245 brings the dinner train back to Hillsborough.
Hiram Creek trestle

Contrast the scene above to this photo (by Art Clowes) from Friday, March 9 showing the cleanup after the trestle removal. It's the same viewpoint.
Hiram Creek trestle

I went over it many times when volunteering at the railway. Here's a video I took of the dinner train back in 2003. You can see engine 1754 drifting over the trestle starting at 1:25.

Farewell, old friend.

Friday, February 20, 2009

Two Videos From July 2004

I uploaded two videos from July of 2004. The first shows CN 701 rolling through Burnside, NS on July 7, 2004 on its way back to Dartmouth with a load of gypsum. CN 5694 and CN 5626 provided the power. It's a short video because I had left my video camera on by accident, and the batteries died while I was taping this train.


The second (from July 11) is a cab ride in Salem & Hillsborough 8245 as it rolls through the lovely countryside of Hillsborough, NB. This was the last year of operation. I was the head end brakeman on this excursion trip. While the unit is rolling there is not much for the brakeman to do besides keep an eye out. Taping from 8245 was good because there was no short hood to get in the way.

Monday, September 24, 2007

CP 29

As you may know, CP 29 is currently stuffed and mounted outside the Canadian Pacific headquarters in downtown Calgary, Alberta.

CP 29 was famous for being one of the last three CP steam locomotives in regular freight service, the other two being 136 and 144. They worked between Chipman and Norton on the CP line, and they continued working because of the very light bridges on the line. They were eventually replaced in 1959, I think.

CP 29 eventually came to the Salem and Hillsborough Railroad where it was returned to service and used on the passenger runs. It always ran in company with another engine (except for one time). Tragically it was damaged in the 1994 fire, and after a few years it was returned to CP, who cosmetically restored it and put it on display.

Brian Barchard sent me these two photos of CP 29 in Calgary.




More details on CP 29 are available at the New Brunswick Railway Museum website.